Seth Thomas Pocket Watch Models 6 - 9
Seth Thomas Eagle Series is represented in the Ehrhardt American Numbered Drawings as Model 6 EA 811 (top left), Model 7 EA 812 (top right), Model 8 EA 811A (bottom left), and Model 9 EA 812A (bottom right); and can be identified through the use of the drawings below:
Eagle Series Models 6 & 7 and 8 & 9
Open-face Model 6 and hunting Model 7, the Old Eagle Series, are grouped together with Open-face Model 8 and hunting Model 9, the New Eagle Series, because Model 8 and Model 9 were the replacements for and based closely upon the design and configuration of Model 6 and Model 7. Model 8 and Model 9 serial numbers start where Model 6 and Model 7 serial numbers end. Model 8 and Model 9 New Eagle movements were thinner and had smaller balance bridges than the Model 6 and Model 7 Old Eagle movements [*1.d].
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The 1904 Seth Thomas Watch Material Catalog tells us that all Model 6 and Model 7 movements had flat hairsprings and were manufactured with gilt, nickel, and two-tone finish; however there is no mention of gilt finish in Seth Thomas Models and Grades for Model 6 or Model 7. Seth Thomas Model and Grades informs us that all of the Model 6 and Model 7 movements were lever set; and none of the Model 6 or Model 7 Movements were adjusted [*1.g] [*1.n]. We know from observation that some of the Model 6 movements were manufactured to be pin set for use in the Companion travel time pieces.
The 1904 Seth Thomas Watch Material Catalog reports tells us that all Model 8 and Model 9 movements had Breguet hairsprings and were manufactured with gilt, nickel, and two-tone finish; however there is no mention of gilt finish in Seth Thomas Models and Grades for Model 8 or Model 9. Seth Thomas Model and Grades informs us that Model 8 and Model 9 movements were manufactured as either lever set or pendant set; and that none of the Model 8 or Model 9 Movements were adjusted [*1.g] [*1.n]. We know from observation that some of the Model 8 movements were manufactured to be pin set for use in the Companion travel time pieces.
The 1904 Seth Thomas Watch Material Catalog reports tells us that all Model 6 and Model 7 movements had flat hairsprings and were manufactured with gilt, nickel, and two-tone finish; however there is no mention of gilt finish in Seth Thomas Models and Grades for Model 6 or Model 7. Seth Thomas Model and Grades informs us that all of the Model 6 and Model 7 movements were lever set; and none of the Model 6 or Model 7 Movements were adjusted [*1.g] [*1.n].
Model 6 movements were manufactured with with a nickel or two-tone finish, and 7 jewels at grade 36; in nickel with 11 jewels at grade 44, and grade 106 in two-tone; or 15 jewels with a micrometric regulator in nickel or two-tone at grade 206; and 17 jewels with a micrometric regulator in nickel or two-tone at grade 210 [*1.n].
Model 7 movements were manufactured with with a nickel or two-tone finish, and 7 jewels at grade 37; in nickel or two-tone with 11 jewels at grade 107; or 15 jewels with a micrometric regulator in nickel or two-tone at grade 207; and 17 jewels with a micrometric regulator in nickel or two-tone at grade 211 [*1.n].
Open-face Model 6 and hunting Model 7, the Old Eagle Series, are grouped together with Open-face Model 8 and hunting Model 9, the New Eagle Series, because Model 8 and Model 9 were the replacements for and based closely upon the design and configuration of Model 6 and Model 7. Model 8 and Model 9 serial numbers start where Model 6 and Model 7 serial numbers end. Model 8 and Model 9 New Eagle movements were thinner and had smaller balance bridges than the Model 6 and Model 7 Old Eagle movements [*1.d].
The 1904 Seth Thomas Watch Material Catalog reports tells us that all Model 8 and Model 9 movements had Breguet hairsprings and were manufactured with gilt, nickel, and two-tone finish; however there is no mention of gilt finish in Seth Thomas Models and Grades for Model 8 or Model 9. Seth Thomas Model and Grades informs us that Model 8 and Model 9 movements were manufactured as either lever set or pendant set; and that none of the Model 8 or Model 9 Movements were adjusted [*1.g] [*1.n]. We know from observation that some of the Model 8 movements were manufactured to be pin set for use in the Companion travel time pieces.
The 1904 Seth Thomas Watch Material Catalog reports tells us that all Model 8 and Model 9 movements had Breguet hairsprings and were manufactured with gilt, nickel, and two-tone finish; however there is no mention of gilt finish in Seth Thomas Models and Grades for Model 8 or Model 9. Seth Thomas Model and Grades informs us that Model 8 and Model 9 movements were manufactured as either lever set or pendant set; and that none of the Model 8 or Model 9 Movements were adjusted [*1.g] [*1.n]. We know from observation that some of the Model 8 movements were manufactured to be pin set for use in the Companion travel time pieces.
Model 8 movements were manufactured with with a nickel or two-tone finish, and 7 jewels at grade 36; in nickel or two-tone with 11 jewels at grade 106; or 15 jewels with a micrometric regulator in nickel or two-tone at grade 206; and 17 jewels with a micrometric regulator in nickel or two-tone at grade 210 [*1.n].
Model 9 movements were manufactured with with a nickel or two-tone finish, and 7 jewels at grade 37; in nickel or two-tone with 11 jewels at grade 107; or 15 jewels with a micrometric regulator in nickel or two-tone at grade 207; and 17 jewels with a micrometric regulator in nickel or two-tone at grade 211 (including the private label “Edgemere” version) [*1.n].
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18-size Eagle Series Movements
Seth Thomas Grade 36
7 Jewel - Model 6
This 1894-1901 Seth Thomas open-face 18-size Model 6 pocket watch was manufactured with a nickel finished 3/4 plate, 7 jewels, and it is non-adjusted. The movement is stem wound and lever set, with a flat hair spring, and plain/simple regulator. Its serial number is 517638, and its grade is Seth Thomas numbered grade 36. The private label movement is unsigned, and marked with the engraving of a large eagle and was probably sold as a private label “Garden City” pocket watch by Lapp & Flershem, a Chicago jewelry wholesaler. This is the 2337th Seth Thomas Model 6 pocket watch produced. Model 6 serial numbers started at 515301 and concluded at 700000.
The movement presents with an 18-size unsigned Roman dial with a ring minute track and black five-minute marginals. It is fitted with Seth Thomas #1285 blued open morning glory hands, 18-size.
The movement is presently cased in an 18-size open-face Dueber Watch Case Manufacturing Company Silverine (nickel), with hinged front and back, watch case, serial number 13143.
Seth Thomas Grade 36
7 Jewel - Model 8
This 1896-1904 Seth Thomas open-face 18-size Model 8 pocket watch was manufactured with a two-tone finished 3/4 plate, 7 jewels, and it is non-adjusted. The movement is stem wound and pin set, with a Breguet hair spring, and plain/simple regulator. Its serial number is 802346, and its grade is Seth Thomas numbered grade 36. The specially milled “Companion” movement is signed “Seth Thomas Thomaston, Conn.”. The Companion is an early Seth Thomas travel timepiece.
The movement presents with an 18-size single-pressed Seth Thomas #1218 Roman dial with a ring minute track and no marginals; fitted with Seth Thomas #1281 blued spade hands 18-size.
Seth Thomas Companion travelers' timepiece. Movement is fitted in a metal block which is leather-covered. First quality leathers are Lizard, Alligator, and Seal, in black, brown and green. Second quality are Morocco in Brown, Black, Green, Blue, Red and English Pig Skin.
Seth Thomas Grade 37
7 Jewel - Model 7
This 1894-1901 Seth Thomas 18-size hunting Model 7 pocket watch was manufactured with a nickel finished 3/4 plate, 7 jewels, and it is non-adjusted. The movement is stem wound and lever set, with a flat hair spring, and plain/simple regulator. Its serial number is 518837, and its grade is Seth Thomas numbered grade 37. The private label movement is unsigned, and marked with the engraving of a medium sized eagle and was probably sold as a private label “Garden City” pocket watch by Lapp & Flershem, a Chicago jewelry wholesaler. This is the 10,837th Seth Thomas Model 7 pocket watch produced. Model 7 serial numbers started at 508001 and concluded at 647800.
The movement presents with an 18-size private label "Eagle" Blue Fancy Dial with a ring minute track and black five-minute marginals; fitted with Seth Thomas #1281 blued spade hands 18-size.
The movement is not presently cased.
Seth Thomas Grade 37
7 Jewel - Model 9
This 1896-1905 Seth Thomas 18-size hunting Model 9 pocket watch was manufactured with a nickel finished 3/4 plate, 7 jewels, and it is non-adjusted. The movement is stem wound and lever set, with a Breguet hair spring and plain/simple regulator. Its serial number is 759640, and its grade is Seth Thomas numbered grade 37. The movement is signed “Seth Thomas Thomaston, Conn.”.
The movement presents with an 18-size double-pressed Seth Thomas #1225 Arabic dial with a hashmarks minute track and red five-minute marginals; fitted with Seth Thomas #1281 blued spade hands 18-size.
The movement is cased in an 18-size Illinois Watch Case Company nickel open-face watch case with screw back and bezel, serial number 478996.
Seth Thomas Grade 106
11 Jewel - Model 6
This 1894-1901 Seth Thomas open-face 18-size Model 6 pocket watch was manufactured with a gilt-damaskeened finished 3/4 plate, 11 jewels, and it is non-adjusted. The movement is stem wound and lever set, with a flat hair spring and simple/plain regulator. Its serial number is 604869, and its grade is Seth Thomas numbered grade 106. The private label movement is signed “Montgomery Ward Chicago “20th Century””.
The movement presents with an 18-size private label "“20th Century"" Arabic dial with a ring minute track and black five-minute marginals, fitted with Seth Thomas #1281 blued spade hands 18-size. Montgomery Ward "20th Century" is a private label in Seth Thomas Model 6, Model 7, Model 8, and Model 9.
The movement is cased in an 18-size Bay State 3 oz. Coin Silver open-face Imperial watch case with hinged front and back with floral engraving, serial number 113824, manufactured in 1894.
Seth Thomas Grade 106
11 Jewel - Model 8
This 1896-1904 Seth Thomas open-face 18-size Model 8 pocket watch was manufactured with a two-tone finished 3/4 plate, 11 jewels, and it is non-adjusted. The movement is stem wound and lever set, with a Breguet hair spring, and plain/simple regulator. Its serial number is 701423, and its grade is Seth Thomas numbered grade 106. The movement is signed “Seth Thomas Thomaston, Conn.”. This is the 1423rd Seth Thomas Model 8 pocket watch produced. Model 8 serial numbers started at 700001 and concluded at 2593000.
The movement presents with an 18-size single-pressed Seth Thomas #1218 Roman dial with a ring minute track and black five-minute marginals; fitted with Seth Thomas #1281 blued spade hands 18-size.
The movement is not presently cased.
Seth Thomas Grade 107
11 Jewel - Model 7
This 1894-1901 Seth Thomas 18-size hunting Model 7 pocket watch was manufactured with a nickel finished 3/4 plate, 11 jewels, and it is non-adjusted. The movement is stem wound and lever set, with a flat hair spring and plain/simple regulator. Its serial number is 583350, and its grade is Seth Thomas numbered grade 107. The private label movement is signed Montgomery Ward Chicago “20th Century”.
The movement presents with an 18-size private label “20th Century” Roman dial with a ring minute track and black five-minute marginals; fitted with Seth Thomas #1281 blued spade hands 18-size.
20th Century Montgomery Ward is a Private Label in Seth Thomas Model 6, Model 7, Model 8, and Model 9.
The movement is cased in an Unknown Case Manufacturer gold-filled hunting watch case, serial number 26153.
Seth Thomas Grade 111
12 Jewel - Model 9
This 1896-1905 Seth Thomas 18-size hunting Model 9 pocket watch was manufactured with a two-tone finished 3/4 plate, 12 jewels, and it is non-adjusted. The movement is stem wound and lever set, with a Breguet hair spring and micrometric regulator. Its serial number is 789726, and its grade is Seth Thomas numbered grade 111. The private label movement is signed “Edgemere Chicago, Ill.”.
The movement presents with an 18-size private label “Edgemere” Roman dial with a ring minute track and black five-minute marginals; fitted with Seth Thomas #1281 blued spade hands 18-size. Montgomery Ward "20th Century is a private label in Seth Thomas Model 6, Model 7, Model 8, and Model 9.
The movement is cased in an 18-size Fahys Watch Case Company Oresilver No 1 (nickel) open-face watch case with screw back and bezel, serial number 170909.
Seth Thomas Grade 206
15 Jewel - Model 8
This 1896-1904 Seth Thomas open-face 18-size Model 8 pocket watch was manufactured with a two-tone finished 3/4 plate, 15 jewels, and it is non-adjusted. The movement is stem wound and lever set, with a Breguet hair spring and micrometric regulator. Its serial number is 710159, and its grade is Seth Thomas numbered grade 206. The micrometric regulator spring is presently missing. The movement is signed “Seth Thomas Thomaston, Conn.”.
The movement presents with an 18-size single-pressed Seth Thomas #1217 Arabic dial with a ring minute track and black five-minute marginals; fitted with Seth Thomas #1281 blued spade hands 18-size.
The movement is cased in an 18-size Illinois Watch Case Company open-face watch case, serial number 0175190.
Seth Thomas Grade 207
15 Jewel - Model 9
This 1896-1905 Seth Thomas 18-size hunting Model 9 pocket watch was manufactured with a two-tone finished 3/4 plate, 15 jewels, and it is non-adjusted. The movement is stem wound and lever set, with a Breguet hair spring and micrometric regulator. Its serial number is 749198, and its grade is Seth Thomas numbered grade 207. The movement is signed “Seth Thomas Thomaston, Conn.”.
The movement presents with an 18-size Seth Thomas #1216 Roman dial with Hash Mark Minute Track and Black Five-Minute Marginals, fitted with Seth Thomas #1281 Spade Blued Hands 18-size.
The movement is temporarily cased in an 18-size Keystone Watch Case Company open-face Silveroid (nickel alloy) watch case, serial number 3324024.
Seth Thomas Grade 210
17 Jewel - Model 8
This 1896-1904 Seth Thomas open-face 18-size Model 8 pocket watch was manufactured with a two-tone finished 3/4 plate, 17 jewels, and it is non-adjusted. The movement is stem wound and lever set, with a Breguet hair spring and micrometric regulator. Its serial number is 7786422, and its grade is Seth Thomas numbered grade 210. The private label movement is signed Edgemere Chicago, Ill..
The movement presents with an 18-size private label "Edgemere" Roman dial with a ring minute track and red five-minute marginals; fitted with Seth Thomas #1281 blued spade hands 18-size. Edgemere is a private label in Seth Thomas Model 8, Model 9, Model 12, and Model 13, Model 16, and Model 17.
The movement is cased in an 18-size 1878 Fahys Watch Case Company open-face coin silver watch case with hinged back and bezel, serial number 5405034.
Seth Thomas Grade 211
17 Jewel - Model 9
This 1896-1904 Seth Thomas 18-size hunting Model 9 pocket watch was manufactured with a two-tone finished 3/4 plate, 17 jewels, and it is non-adjusted. The movement is stem wound and lever set, with a Breguet hair spring and micrometric regulator. Its serial number is 788732, and its grade is Seth Thomas numbered grade 211. The private label movement is signed Edgemere Chicago, Ill..
The movement presents with an 18-size private label "Edgemere" Roman dial with a ring minute track and red five-minute marginals; fitted with Seth Thomas #1281 blued spade hands 18-size. Edgemere is a private label in Seth Thomas Model 8, Model 9, Model 12, and Model 13, Model 16, and Model 17.
The movement is cased in an 18-size Dueber Watch Case Company gold-filled hunting watch case with hinged back and bezel, serial number 5828379.
Seth Thomas Grade 206
15 Jewel - Model 8
This 1896-1904 Seth Thomas open-face 18-size Model 8 pocket watch was manufactured with a two-tone finished 3/4 plate, 15 jewels, and it is non-adjusted. The movement is stem wound and lever set, with a Breguet hair spring and micrometric regulator. Its serial number is 710159, and its grade is Seth Thomas numbered grade 206. The micrometric regulator spring is presently missing. The movement is signed “Seth Thomas Thomaston, Conn.”.
The movement presents with an 18-size single-pressed Seth Thomas #1217 Arabic dial with a ring minute track and black five-minute marginals; fitted with Seth Thomas #1281 blued spade hands 18-size.
The movement is cased in an 18-size Illinois Watch Case Company open-face watch case, serial number 0175190.
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