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FAT Numbers

Factory Assigned Tracking Numbers

for Century Grade Movement Components

These non-numbered 18-size Century pocket watch movements carry a factory-assigned tracking number (FAT Number). Data shows that the FAT Number stamped on the pillar plate has not been omitted on any of the specimens examined. The FAT Number on the reverse side of the top plate, when present, has been exactly the same as the FAT Number shown on the pillar plate, the only exception observed to date being cases in which one of the plates appears to have been transplanted from another movement. Transplanted parts seem to be identified quite easily on the non-numbered Century grade movements using the FAT Numbers. The FAT Numbers appearing on other parts of the movement, underside of the balance bridge and on the winding bridge, are frequently truncated showing the last three, two, or one digits of the FAT Number. Since the pillar plate appears to be the most consistent and reliable source of the full Fat Number, the number appearing there is being observed as the FAT Number for any given movement.

For the purpose of examining individual movement specimens, this reference illustrates the dial foot screw (DFS) location patterns used throughout the documentation images and provides a standardized reference for recording DFS count during specimen documentation. A dial foot screw (DFS) is located on outer perimeter of the pillar plate distal to the penetration for each dial foot.

No surviving factory documentation describing these markings has yet been identified; all conclusions presented here are based on physical examination and comparative analysis.

In the Seth Thomas Fan collection, FAT numbers observed on Model 10 movements range from 240 to 922. FAT numbers observed on Model 11 movements range from 116 to 34,301. FAT numbers observed on Model 12 movements range from 343 to 67,010. FAT numbers observed on Model 13 movements range from 182 to 324,601. Current evidence suggests FAT numbers may be unique within a model, but the factory’s full assignment logic is not yet known. These stamped numbers are illustrated and cataloged in the sections below. The Complete Dataset - Standard Sort and The Complete Dataset - Manufacturing Practices Sort can each be viewed in a separate tab.

Practical Use of FAT# Derived Identifiers

Independent of any factory-intent interpretation, FAT# Derived Identifiers provide a reliable means of distinguishing otherwise indistinguishable non-numbered Century movements that are visually similar in engraving, dial, and private-label configuration, making positive re-identification difficult once movements are removed from cases or long-term storage. FAT# Derived Identifiers are not serial numbers; but in practice, they function as serial-number equivalents to facilitate collection management and documentation for collectors working with these non-serialized movements. Naming is what turns objects into data points. The FAT# Derived Identifier is comprised of a two-digit model number, the private label name, and the FAT Number found on the pillar plate of the physical movement.

FAT Numbers possibly hold potential to assist horologists in the development of a deeper understanding of the production process and chronology that took place at the Seth Thomas factory while non-numbered Century grade movements were being produced. 

The first test of the usefulness of FAT Numbers will be the development of a FAT# Derived Identifier for each non-numbered Century grade movement in the Seth Thomas Fan Collection. This part of the project holds the potential to create viable identifiers tied to physical non-numbered movements. If successful; this means that FAT Numbers will be proven able to play a role in assigning persistent identifiers to otherwise undistinguishable horological artifacts in a large collection.

Early Observations and Initial Inferences

A structural transition in top-plate marking and dial-foot configuration is observable within the dataset and is discussed in detail in the Evidence Summary section below.

• The presence of lower FAT numbers on movements exhibiting later configuration traits (three dial foot screws and absence of a FAT number on the back of the top plate) suggests that FAT numbers should not presently be interpreted as strictly chronological indicators.

• A structural transition is suggested in Model 12 and Model 13 movements: earlier examples consistently exhibit two dial foot screws and a FAT number stamped on the back of the top plate, while later examples exhibit three dial foot screws and no rear top-plate FAT stamping. This configuration aligns with the mechanical and marking practices seen in early numbered production, where the serial number appears on the front of the top plate.

• Current evidence raises the possibility that elimination of rear top-plate FAT stamping coincided with the factory’s reorganization of marking practices during the transition to numbered movements, though the precise sequencing of these changes (whether simultaneous or staged) remains under investigation.

• Present data do not support interpreting FAT numbers as a simple ordinal production sequence across all Century-grade models. Whether FAT numbers correlate to production sequencing within specific models or configuration phases remains an open question pending additional documentation.

• Additional data from other collections may clarify whether FAT numbers reflect batch assignment, model-scoped numbering, tooling sequences, or other internal factory processes.

Image Contribution Form

If you have previously documented a non-numbered Century-grade Model 10–13 movement and would like to contribute photographs for research purposes, this Image Contribution Form may be used.

NOTE: This page is under active development. It will continue to be updated as photographic documentation becomes available and as additional movements are added to the collection and documented. The research and classifications on this page follow the methods described in the Research Methodology.

In the illustrations below, the original Seth Thomas Fan Collection serial identifier is retained. Where present, a green alphanumeric label indicates a FAT Number–Derived Identifier used for internal cataloging and analysis. It is comprised of a two-digit model number, the private label name, and the FAT Number found on the pillar plate of the physical movement.

The following terms used within the illustrations below to qualify each FAT Number datapoint are defined, based on physical examination and comparative analysis, as follows: Original = No evidence of transplant observed. Transplant = Evidence strongly supports component transplant.

10CENTURY307

10CENTURY712

10CENTURY568

10CENTURY499

10CENTURY480

Pillar Plate: 480 Back of Top Plate: 480 Balance Bridge: 478 Winding Bridge: Blank 2 DFS

Original Original Transplant Original

Pillar Plate: 307 Back of Top Plate: 307 Balance Bridge: 307 Winding Bridge: Blank 2 DFS

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 712 Back of Top Plate: 712 Balance Bridge: 712 Winding Bridge: Blank 2 DFS

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 568 Back of Top Plate: 568 Balance Bridge: 568 Winding Bridge: Blank 2 DFS

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 499 Back of Top Plate: 499 Balance Bridge: 499 Winding Bridge: Blank 2 DFS

Original Original Original Original

10CORONA240

10PANAMERICAN513

10PANAMERICAN504

10CORONA317

10PANAMERICAN922

Pillar Plate: 317 Back of Top Plate: 317 Balance Bridge: 317 Winding Bridge: Blank 2 DFS

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 240 Back of Top Plate: 240 Balance Bridge: 240 Winding Bridge: Blank 2 DFS

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 513 Back of Top Plate: 513 Balance Bridge: 513 Winding Bridge: Blank 2 DFS

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 504 Back of Top Plate: 504 Balance Bridge: 600 Winding Bridge: Blank 2 DFS

Original Original Transplant Original

Pillar Plate: 922 Back of Top Plate: 922 Balance Bridge: 922 Winding Bridge: Blank 2 DFS

Original Original Original Original

FAT Numbers

Model 11

The Complete Dataset - Standard Sort and The Complete Dataset - Manufacturing Practices Sort can each be viewed in a separate tab.

11CENTURY934

11CENTURY116

11CENTURY34301

11CENTURY182

11CENTURY533

11PANAMERICAN322

11CENTURY558

11PANAMERICAN802

11PANAMERICAN653

11PANAMERICAN185

Pillar Plate: 645 Back of Top Plate: 645 Balance Bridge: 645 Winding Bridge: 45 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 182 Back of Top Plate: 182 Balance Bridge: 182 Winding Bridge: 82 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 934 Back of Top Plate: 934 Balance Bridge: 934 Winding Bridge: 34 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 116 Back of Top Plate: 116 Balance Bridge: 116 Winding Bridge: 16 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 34301 Back of Top Plate: 34301 Balance Bridge: 34301 Winding Bridge: 1 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 558 Back of Top Plate: 558 Balance Bridge: 558 Winding Bridge: 58 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 533 Back of Top Plate: 533 Balance Bridge: 533 Winding Bridge: 33 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 322 Back of Top Plate: 427 Balance Bridge: 322 Winding Bridge: 22 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Transplant Original Original

Pillar Plate: 802 Back of Top Plate: 802 Balance Bridge: 802 Winding Bridge: 2 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 185 Back of Top Plate: 185 Balance Bridge: 185 Winding Bridge: 85 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 653 Back of Top Plate: 653 Balance Bridge: 653 Winding Bridge: 53 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

11CENTURY645

FAT Numbers

Model 12

The Complete Dataset - Standard Sort and The Complete Dataset - Manufacturing Practices Sort can each be viewed in a separate tab.

12ATHABASCA8117

12ATHABASCA9368

12CENTURY16855

12CENTURY866

12CENTURY417

12CENTURY340

12CENTURY8265

Pillar Plate: 5539 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 539 Winding Bridge: None 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 8117 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 117 Winding Bridge: None 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 9368 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 760 Winding Bridge: None 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Transplant Original

Pillar Plate: 16855 Back of Top Plate: 16855 Balance Bridge: 855 Winding Bridge: None 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 8265 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 265 Winding Bridge: None 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 400 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 400 Winding Bridge: None 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 866 Back of Top Plate: 866 Balance Bridge: 866 Winding Bridge: None 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 417 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 471 Winding Bridge: None 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 340 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 340 Winding Bridge: None 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

12CENTURY933

Pillar Plate: 933 Back of Top Plate: 933 Balance Bridge: 933 Winding Bridge: None 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

12ATHABASCA5539

12CENTURY400

12COLONIAL408

Pillar Plate: 408 Back of Top Plate: 408 Balance Bridge: 408 Winding Bridge: None 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 714 Back of Top Plate: 714 Balance Bridge: 714 Winding Bridge: None 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 343 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 259 Winding Bridge: None 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Transplant Original

Pillar Plate: 42814 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 96 Winding Bridge: None 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Transplant Original

12CORONA714

12CORONA343

12CORONA42814

12TRAINMENS6484

Pillar Plate: 1223 Back of Top Plate: 1223 Balance Bridge: 223 Winding Bridge: None 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 892 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 892 Winding Bridge: None 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 1370 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 370 Winding Bridge: None 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 1509 Back of Top Plate: 1509 Balance Bridge: 509 Winding Bridge: None 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 67010 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 7010 Winding Bridge: None 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 2568 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 568 Winding Bridge: None 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 3248 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 248 Winding Bridge: None 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 5930 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 930 Winding Bridge: None 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 6484 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 484 Winding Bridge: None 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

12CORONA1509

12CORONA1223

12CORONA892

12EDGEMERE1370

12EDGEMERE67010

12REPUBLIC2568

12REPUBLIC3248

12TRAINMENS5930

FAT Numbers

Model 13

The Complete Dataset - Standard Sort and The Complete Dataset - Manufacturing Practices Sort can each be viewed in a separate tab.

These non-numbered 18-size Century pocket watch movements carry a factory-assigned tracking number (FAT). In the Seth Thomas Fan collection, FAT numbers observed on Model 13 range from 182 to 324601. Current evidence suggests FAT numbers may be unique within a model, but the factory’s full assignment logic is not yet known. Evidence also suggests a correlation between the FAT number being absent from the back of the top plate and the presence of a third dial foot screw on the perimeter of the later non-numbered Model 13 movements.

Pillar Plate: 324601 Back of Top Plate: 696 Balance Bridge: 324601 Winding Bridge: 324601 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Transplant Original Original

Pillar Plate: 806 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 806 Winding Bridge: 6 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 6693 Back of Top Plate: 6693 Balance Bridge: 693 Winding Bridge: 93 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 46421 Back of Top Plate: 46421 Balance Bridge: 421 Winding Bridge: 21 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 661 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 661 Winding Bridge: 61 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 2505 Back of Top Plate: 2505 Balance Bridge: 505 Winding Bridge: 5 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 926 Back of Top Plate: 926 Balance Bridge: 926 Winding Bridge: 26 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

13CENTURY46421

13CENTURY324601

13CENTURY661

13CENTURY806

13CENTURY6693

13CENTURY926

13CENTURY2505

Pillar Plate: 7662 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 662 Winding Bridge: 62 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 7139 Back of Top Plate: 7139 Balance Bridge: 139 Winding Bridge: 39 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 02969 Back of Top Plate: 02969 Balance Bridge: 806 Winding Bridge: 69 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Transplant Original

13CENTURY324601

13CORONA7662

13CORONA7139

13CORONA02969

Pillar Plate: 226 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 226 Winding Bridge: 26 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 0514 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 514 Winding Bridge: 14 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 8735 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 735 Winding Bridge: 35 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 1751 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 751 Winding Bridge: 51 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 8916 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 916 Winding Bridge: 16 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 182 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 182 Winding Bridge: 82 2 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

Pillar Plate: 4950 Back of Top Plate: Blank Balance Bridge: 950 Winding Bridge: 50 3 Dial Feet Screws

Original Original Original Original

13CORONA182

13CORONA4950

13EDGEMERE226

13EDGEMERE0514

13REPUBLIC1751

13REX8735

13TRAINMENS8916

Evidence Summary

FAT Number Uniqueness Within the Dataset

Within the current dataset, duplication of pillar plate FAT numbers is observed across models (e.g., 11CENTURY182 and 13CORONA182). This demonstrates that pillar plate FAT numbers are not universally unique across all non-numbered Century-grade movements. However, no duplication has presently been observed within a single model grouping, leaving open the possibility that FAT numbers may have been unique within individual Century-grade models.

Configuration-Based Distinctions Observed Within the Dataset

Within the Seth Thomas Fan collection, non-numbered Century-grade movements can presently be grouped by observed configuration and model distribution:

1. Movements appearing only in Century Old Model (Model 10 and Model 11):
These consistently exhibit:

  • Two dial foot screws

  • FAT# stamped on pillar plate, balance bridge, and back of top plate

  • No serial number

Private labels such as Pan-American appear exclusively in these models and are therefore representative of Century Old Model production within the current dataset.

2. Movements appearing in both Century Old Model and Century New Model (Model 12 and 13):
Examples include Century U.S.A. and Corona Watch Co.
These exhibit mixed configurations within the dataset, including both two and three dial foot screw examples and variation in rear top-plate FAT# stamping suggesting overlap during a period of configuration change.

3. Movements appearing only in Century New Model (Model 12 and 13):
Examples include Athabasca, Edgemere, Republic U.S.A., Rex, and Trainmens Special.
These consistently exhibit:

  • Three dial foot screws

  • No rear top-plate FAT# stamping

  • Configuration identical to that observed in inspected early numbered production

These distinctions are based solely on observed distribution within the current dataset and should not be interpreted as definitive production phases pending further documentation.

Exploration/Examination of Numbered Century New Model Movements

  1. Inspection of 41 numbered Model 12 movements (serial range X–Y, plus one high serial) and 12 numbered Model 13 movements (serial range A–B) confirms all exhibit three dial foot screws and no rear top-plate FAT# stamping.

  2. No inspected numbered movement retained rear top-plate FAT# stamping.

  3. Inspection of non-numbered Model 12 and Model 13 movements shows a corresponding shift from two dial foot screws with rear top-plate FAT# stamping to three dial foot screws without rear top-plate FAT stamping.

    • A clear structural transition is observable in Model 12 and Model 13 movements: earlier examples consistently exhibit two dial foot screws and a FAT number stamped on the back of the top plate, while later examples exhibit three dial foot screws and no rear top-plate FAT stamping. This configuration aligns with the mechanical and marking practices seen in early numbered production, where the serial number appears on the front of the top plate.

    • Current evidence suggests that elimination of rear top-plate FAT stamping coincided with the factory’s reorganization of marking practices during the transition to numbered movements, though the precise sequencing of these changes (whether simultaneous or staged) remains under investigation.

    • Present data do not support interpreting FAT numbers as a simple ordinal production sequence across all Century-grade models. Whether FAT numbers correlate to production sequencing within specific models or configuration phases remains an open question pending additional documentation.

Standard Sort

Manufacturing Sort

Private Label Progression Sort